Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:31 pm
ZMagic30 wrote:Chicagojayfan wrote:Ii think espn has them very overrated given the other offees they have. Rivals had them with one five star, two four star and two three star recruits. One of the four star guys is ranked, the other isn't.
https://rivals.yahoo.com/marquette/bask ... ments/2015
No way heldt should be 4 stars, same for Anim.. all the bigger schools passed and didn't offer.
This is a ridiculous argument. Seriously, look at our incoming recruits. We're the best offer that any of them had. I know Texas and Oregon tried to get ahold of Patton after he committed, but nothing came of it because he was committed to Creighton. If you're using scholarship offers as an eye test, then Creighton definitely does not pass.
Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:42 pm
Chicagojayfan wrote:Duke1Agn wrote:Chicagojayfan wrote:Ii think espn has them very overrated given the other offees they have. Rivals had them with one five star, two four star and two three star recruits. One of the four star guys is ranked, the other isn't.
https://rivals.yahoo.com/marquette/bask ... ments/2015
No way heldt should be 4 stars, same for Anim.. all the bigger schools passed and didn't offer.
Do you know anything about Heldt? Or are you just looking at his offer list and deciding, "meh, he's overrated." I know people who have personally watched him play, and they all say he's every bit as good as his rating.
to me Heldt is a nice part of a good team. He may develop to play well enough defensively to make a difference, but he's never going to be a shot blocker and he's looking at being a pick and pop 5 on the next level IMO. I don't think he's big enough to play a lot of offense in the post in the Big East, but he can stretch out to the 3 pt line. He's not a 4 star IMO. Heldt was evaluated by a lot of teams including Indiana, Clemson, and Northwestern. Xavier was the only other major to offer. He's not anywhere close to Patton in terms of potential.
The fact that ESPN has Anim as a 4 star is nothing more than a joke. He's been evaluated many times by many teams and his best offers before the Marquette one was Northern Iowa and Northwestern. Doesn't mean he's not a good recruit, it means that ESPN is far outside of any other services and any other coaches on their evaluation of him.
I don't go by rankings in general, but I do go by other offers. Yes, every now and then there's a chance someone slips through the cracks, has an injury, has academic troubles teams don't want to ride out, or something goes wrong and gets discovered late, but by and large if a lot of teams evaluate a guy and don't offer it means something.
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Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:12 pm
taa71458 wrote:Leaving Marquette, that's two transfers for Wojo already this year. Guy can bring in the talent, doesn't seem to be able to do much else though.
Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:31 pm
AttyAlum wrote:taa71458 wrote:Leaving Marquette, that's two transfers for Wojo already this year. Guy can bring in the talent, doesn't seem to be able to do much else though.
Wojo is the Tim Miles of the Big East.