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Re: 2017 SF Brian "Tugs" Bowen (Louisville Commit)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:10 pm
by ICBluejays
Feds would have jurisdiction if transactions crossed state lines or affected interstate commerce. Title 18 covers these crimes, many of which involve wire and mail communications

Re: 2017 SF Brian "Tugs" Bowen (Louisville Commit)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:45 pm
by jfan
These allegations "come as a complete shock to me" states Rick P. Now that is a real surprise!!

Re: 2017 SF Brian "Tugs" Bowen (Louisville Commit)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:00 pm
by SendDustyIn
Jaysker12 wrote:For the lawyers of the board, how is the FBI able to exercise this jurisdiction over the NCAA? Is the NCAA a recipient of federal funding? Where does the government find its way into this investigation and turn NCAA regulations/amateurism laws into federal crimes? I'm asking only because I do not know, as I feel this is a long overdue exposure of these practices


Related, a coworker of mine and I were having a debate over the alleged bribes. Since the player was not under any contracts, could they be acting in any official capacity? Put another way, say the player got the payments; how could the company enforce the transaction? What is to stop the player, when they turn pro, to simply sign with another agency or financial advisor? And does that lack of enforcement mechanism negate any "bribery?" Or does the simple act of money exchange for a future benefit itself constitute a bribe?

I was arguing the latter, but I'm also not a lawyer.

Re: 2017 SF Brian "Tugs" Bowen (Louisville Commit)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:49 pm
by LynchMob
SendDustyIn wrote:Put another way, say the player got the payments; how could the company enforce the transaction?


Blackmail. According to the FBI, they are holding the payments over the players' heads.

I'm not sure how the payments themselves are illegal, but I'm sure they are, because the shoe guys want them to be - you can't blackmail people if it's not a crime. The blackmail aspect also means that somewhere at Adidas and Nike there is a filing cabinet with incontrovertible proof of all this stuff, otherwise the blackmail wouldn't work.

Re: 2017 SF Brian "Tugs" Bowen (Louisville Commit)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:56 pm
by LJay
Well, that family always craved the limelight. I wonder how they will like it from here onward?


Re: 2017 SF Brian "Tugs" Bowen (Louisville Commit)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:06 pm
by Jet915
Another positive is maybe a bunch of teams will be banned from the NCAAs increasing our chances of making the tourney.... :D

Re: 2017 SF Brian "Tugs" Bowen (Louisville Commit)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:07 pm
by jayball
Funny stuff. 0% surprised. Called this early in his recruitment. Seemed like he was being shopped. Nothing else made sense in his recruitment. If an idiot like me could see that.....how hard could it be for others. So blatant. nonsensical top five and visits and changing stories.

Re: 2017 SF Brian "Tugs" Bowen (Louisville Commit)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:49 pm
by Jet915
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Seriously, how many times can you play the "I'm clueless" card.....

Re: 2017 SF Brian "Tugs" Bowen (Louisville Commit)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:01 pm
by fritzpointer
How will the NCAA handle all of this? How will they deal with those teams this year? Early signing date is only about 6 weeks away. Will they let it go forward and deal with it later? It's a huge mess that will get worse before it gets better. I also wonder if the NCAA will have some employees in trouble for ignoring this mess? Go Jays!

Re: 2017 SF Brian "Tugs" Bowen (Louisville Commit)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:26 pm
by Oldfan
If UL doesn’t get the death penalty and Pitino gets a “show cause” penalty, I lose a lot of interest in college B.B.