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Re: The next President

Postby Savannah Jay » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:25 pm

KenoshaJay wrote:https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-tangle-of-rhetorical-inadequacy-1503012472


"Here is a cliché but only because it's true: In times of stress and fracture, people want a president who's calm in the storm, who speaks to the nation's moral conscience, recalls first principles, evokes what unites us, honestly defines the contours of an event, and softly instructs. Mr. Trump didn't do any of that."

The author could probably take out "didn't" and replace it with "couldn't" in the last sentence quoted above.

I believe communities should be allowed to leave or remove statues as directed by the mores of the community. Having hordes of people, on both sides, descend on a community to attempt to coerce that community to do the "right thing" seems like a form of mob justice. Not sure where this ends but the mayor of Savannah announced yesterday that he was sending a request to the Georgia legislature to rename a bridge here that is currently named after a three-term governor who was also a noted segregationist.
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Re: The next President

Postby KenoshaJay » Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:36 am

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Re: The next President

Postby Jaybird » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:46 am

KenoshaJay wrote:https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/18/us/robert-e-lee-slaves.html?referer=https://www.google.com/




What a courtly, benevolent southern gentleman. He only kept his slave five years, even though the terms of the inheritance by which he came to own slaves in the first place meant to give them their freedom. He kept them even though he knew better. After all, plantations don't run themselves.

Here's a little story. You have a star officer in the American army. He's made a name for himself as a brave soldier, a real leader of men. He and his troops have won significant battles. He rises to become Commandant of West Point, one of the highest honors the Army can bestow. Then...he abruptly resigns his commission. Not only that, he signs up with the opposing army, the enemy of the country he just served. He puts on the uniform of a nation waging war with his own. And then, as a commanding officer, he leads those forces into battle, undoubtedly against some of the very men he once led. The war ends, his side loses, yet he eludes capture and prosecution, goes on to lead a prosperous life, and dies a peaceful death, surrounded by family and lavished with honors.

Now, you might be thinking "enough about Robert E. Lee. We know his story". And, sure enough, all that is true of Lee. But it's also true of someone else. Guy by the name of Benedict Arnold.

What do ya know? Lee followed Arnold's career path. Lee had to be aware of what Arnold had done and how he was despised but, damn it, Virginia came first. Yet, while one is maybe the most reviled and hated figure in American military history, a guy whose very name has become a cliche for betrayal, the other, who did the same damned thing, has become deified. (I picture old Benny still rolling in his grave, screaming "Hey, where the hell are my statues? I looked good on a horse too").

So, I guess there was one key difference between the two. Turns out, Lee had way better press agents. Still does, in fact.
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Re: The next President

Postby SendDustyIn » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:52 am

Fun fact: He also marched his army into Canada thinking he'd be greeted as liberators.
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Re: The next President

Postby jfan » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:09 pm

Apparently The Donald looked directly into the sun without protective glasses during the eclipse. He didn't turn into a pillar of salt, so there is that!
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Re: The next President

Postby LynchMob » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:36 pm

Well, this is going well. The President is engaging in two hour televised rants about how white supremacy is underrated, while openly feuding with his current staff, former staff, Republicans in the Senate, Democrats in the Senate, Republicans in the House, Democrats in the House, every significant business leader in the U.S., scores of foreign leaders, and loads more. So far he has not passed any significant legislation or delivered on a meaningful campaign promise.

Is anybody else sick of winning yet?
Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose!
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Re: The next President

Postby Outlaw_Wales » Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:18 pm

LynchMob wrote:Well, this is going well. The President is engaging in two hour televised rants about how white supremacy is underrated, while openly feuding with his current staff, former staff, Republicans in the Senate, Democrats in the Senate, Republicans in the House, Democrats in the House, every significant business leader in the U.S., scores of foreign leaders, and loads more. So far he has not passed any significant legislation or delivered on a meaningful campaign promise.

Is anybody else sick of winning yet?


The guy is continuing to hold pep rallies around the country so he can surround himself with people who don't care that every word out of his mouth is either a blatant lie, completely disingenuous, or unintelligible. It's like he's still running for office, instead of trying to fulfill the duties of the office he does hold. And ninety percent of the people attending those rallies were the same people who screamed to the high heavens anytime they thought Obama was not sitting in the Oval Office and working around the clock. The hypocrisy amongst the pro-Trump crowd is simply staggering.
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Re: The next President

Postby vivid_dude » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:51 am

If a picture is worth a thousand words, these two pictures are worth infinity words.

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Re: The next President

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Re: The next President

Postby vivid_dude » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:11 pm

If you still think your Trump vote was the right way to go, I literally pity how stupid you are. I'm not even mad anymore. I pity you.
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